When You Book a Cruise on the Section 8 Boat

After living in Charlotte, NC for 3 years, I can verify that it's the 99% of blacks that make the 1% look bad.
Gotcha beat, brother. I lived in Baltimore City and DC. I walked my dog in Baltimore with a handgun, a knife, and a baseball bat. A couple of blocks from the projects. Luckily, I was never screwed with. I guess they figured I was nuts walking around that neighborhood. The area between me and the projects was white trash. Drunks, junkies, tweakers and crackheads, hookers. Hispanic gangs too.

DC was and remains a crime ridden shit hole except in the areas where the deep pockets live. This National Guard thing is a band aid. I agree with it, but when they leave it will go back to business as usual. I say export the deadbeats to wealthy liberal communities outside the beltway. Watch how fast the bourgeoise suburban housewives become un-liberalized.

Big urban centers are cesspools for lowlife of all colors. A buddy of mine packed up and moved his fam to Charlotte. Nice neighborhood. We played golf at Pinecrest. Nice course. Not such a great neighborhood. I told my buddy that it's a good thing Blackstone is just a few blocks away because I didn't bring a lot of ammo.
 
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The only "cruise" I've been on was the turn of the millennia from Port Canaveral, FL. My sister talked me into it. :rolleyes: She was there with her BF. It was a "gambling" cruise on a smaller ship and they sailed about 3 miles out for a "three hour tour". Once there, gambling was legal, they turned on the machines, cut the card decks and we floated until the new year. I could see the shore from the ship. At midnight they gave out cheap plastic cups a quarter full of champagne. :rolleyes: There weren't even any fireworks and just a cheap swing band. My sister wanted to rent a cabin and I'm like "No Fucking Way!" ;)

I'm not a gambler, I didn't have a date (there were no potentials aboard--just old fogies), and beers were $12. :eek: I tried "exploring" but the doors were locked and none of the deckhands were willing to give me a tour. I don't think I've ever been more bored at sea... ;)
 
The only "cruise" I've been on was the turn of the millennia from Port Canaveral, FL. My sister talked me into it. :rolleyes: She was there with her BF. It was a "gambling" cruise on a smaller ship and they sailed about 3 miles out for a "three hour tour". Once there, gambling was legal, they turned on the machines, cut the card decks and we floated until the new year. I could see the shore from the ship. At midnight they gave out cheap plastic cups a quarter full of champagne. :rolleyes: There weren't even any fireworks and just a cheap swing band. My sister wanted to rent a cabin and I'm like "No Fucking Way!" ;)

I'm not a gambler, I didn't have a date (there were no potentials aboard--just old fogies), and beers were $12. :eek: I tried "exploring" but the doors were locked and none of the deckhands were willing to give me a tour. I don't think I've ever been more bored at sea... ;)
You could have been the ship giggolo. Old ladies need love too. They have money and they don't get pregnant. :)
 
Yeah, I thought of that but I forgot my lube... :(
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It seems I never got around to posting our cruise ship "experience"... :rolleyes:

The First Cruise: (The cruise that never was)

This was 10+years ago. The wife had been wanting to go on a cruise. Saw all the ads and how "romantic" it is etc. :rolleyes:
I finally give in to make the static go away. OK, you plan it, you book it. Tell me when it is so I can put in for vacation well in advance.

She books a 7 Day 6 Night on Royal Caribbean leaving from New Orleans. Google says 8.5 hr. drive if you don't eat and you don't pee. If you are an experienced traveler with females, you know they don't listen when you tell them to skip the coffee so we don't have to stop two times in the first hour. Of course, "I have to have my coffee." So in reality, the trip with stops for gas, food, and bathroom breaks is more like 12 hours because there is always a wreck inside the perimeter of Atlanta that adds that stuck in gridlock traffic ambiance to the day.

We finally get there and had selected a hotel right across the street from the Port Authority. Made arrangements to leave the car in their parking garage for the cruise.
The ship was scheduled to dock the previous evening and be ready to board at 0800. That was the time we chose to 🤞beat the rush.
While we are eating breakfast, she gets an automated text from the cruise line saying delay boarding until noon.

At noon, we are dockside with the Porter who has a clipboard full of pages. He takes our tickets and flips pages until he finds what he's looking for. "Yep, your cabin if affected, you're not going." 🤯
It seems a water pipe ruptured and flooded the electrical panel for the port side forward portion of the ship right below the bridge. None of the cabins were flooded, but no lights and no a/c. Also took out their GPS nav functions. Had to have a tug guide them into port in the dark. (I guess the days of old school navigation is dead)

Porter points to a nearby small building and tells us to wait there for a rep from the cruise line for more info. Tells us if we leave, we won't get a voucher for another cruise. This is at noon. Building is small and there isn't enough seating. Most of us sat on our suitcases for the duration. No one from the cruise line ever showed up. 🤬

At 1700, someone from the Port Authority came and told us what was going on. Told us to call the toll free number to get a refund and gave us the voucher for another cruise. I get on the phone and book 3 days at the hotel we just checked out of figuring there would be a line at the counter. (And there was).

So went spent three days seeing the sights in N.O. and driving home with a detour to see the Naval Air Museum at Pensacola. The WW 2 Museum was the highlight for me. Best food we ate was in their restaurant.
Bourbon St. was let down. The trouble with Mardis Gras vids is they're at night so you can't see the warts, and there is no sense of smell. 🤢

The Voucher Cruise

It turns out the voucher was only valid for one year from date of issuance. Being we had both burned most of our vacation for the cruise that never was, we had to wait until the following year, which gave us a 6 week window to choose from.
There were no 7 day 6 night cruises like the first one in that time frame. We had to downgrade to a 5 day 4 night cruise to a different part of the Caribbean. This cruise departed from Tampa.

One of my dear friends visited us the weekend before we left to take the cruise. He was getting over whatever variant of the flu was going around that year and we all thought that being he was 90% over it, he was not contagious.

We depart for Tampa. My route for going to Florida avoids Atlanta. If there is even one wreck, you save the 30 minutes Google says the time penalty is for going "off Interstate." Believe me, it is time well spent. No crazy BMW drivers doing 90+, no traffic, just serene countryside until you emerge at Macon and get back on I-75. It's the best 30 minutes you ever "wasted".

Board the ship the next morning. Wife is feeling a bit queasy. We stroll around the ship and see the sights from the bow as it leaves port.
By the next morning, she is sick. Cliff Notes version is she never leaves the cabin the rest of the cruise. 😭

So, after getting her OJ and whatever light fare she thinks she can manage each morning, I explore the ship. Go on a beer crawl. Quickly discover that out of the multiple bars on this ship, only one of them has craft beer. An English Themed Pub in the bow. I spend a good bit of time there while on the ship. There is no longer skeet shooting off the fantail like in old movies, and origami towel folding class was not my cup of tea. The pool was crowded with a cross section of the "over fed generation", and I wanted to keep my lunch down. It was bad enough seeing them with their clothes on and the "Buffet Busters" in the chow line taking the "all you can eat" thing as a challenge. 🤨

Ship only makes two stops on this cruise. A six hour stop in Key West, and a 2 day stop in Cozumel. Honestly, I wish it had been the other way around, but whatever. Earnest Hemmingway House was cool. Most of the stuff is tourist trap stuff. Would have liked to see more of the historic stuff, but no time. Didn't want to be that guy who was 5 minutes late getting back to the ship.

Wife starts feeling better on the leg back to Tampa and is mostly OK when we dock. She's forever held a grudge against Charlie for making her sick though. 😡

So, this was strike 2 for her on cruises.

Strike 3

Wife's dad and step mom got sucked into the time share racket decades ago and the only good part is that he got one in Vegas so it trades with all the other time share venues. They would book a long weekend in Gatlinburg every year and we would meet them there. This was October 2019.

They had a dispute with the time share company and their account was flagged. Upon check-in the rep calls a meeting to smooth things over. Gave them a free cruise to make things right. Being we were there also, he gave us one too, even though we had nothing to do with any of it.

The date she picked was right when Covid was ramping up and all the cruise lines cancelled all cruises.

I haven't heard any more about cruises since, and I don't bring the subject up. :censored:
 
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Never had a bad cruise or even bad cruise experience. That’s terrible you guys had so many issues.
 
It seems I never got around to posting our cruise ship "experience"... :rolleyes:

The First Cruise: (The cruise that never was)

This was 10+years ago. The wife had been wanting to go on a cruise. Saw all the ads and how "romantic" it is etc. :rolleyes:
I finally give in to make the static go away. OK, you plan it, you book it. Tell me when it is so I can put in for vacation well in advance.

She books a 7 Day 6 Night on Royal Caribbean leaving from New Orleans. Google says 8.5 hr. drive if you don't eat and you don't pee. If you are an experienced traveler with females, you know they don't listen when you tell them to skip the coffee so we don't have to stop two times in the first hour. Of course, "I have to have my coffee." So in reality, the trip with stops for gas, food, and bathroom breaks is more like 12 hours because there is always a wreck inside the perimeter of Atlanta that adds that stuck in gridlock traffic ambiance to the day.

We finally get there and had selected a hotel right across the street from the Port Authority. Made arrangements to leave the car in their parking garage for the cruise.
The ship was scheduled to dock the previous evening and be ready to board at 0800. That was the time we chose to 🤞beat the rush.
While we are eating breakfast, she gets an automated text from the cruise line saying delay boarding until noon.

At noon, we are dockside with the Porter who has a clipboard full of pages. He takes our tickets and flips pages until he finds what he's looking for. "Yep, your cabin if affected, you're not going." 🤯
It seems a water pipe ruptured and flooded the electrical panel for the port side forward portion of the ship right below the bridge. None of the cabins were flooded, but no lights and no a/c. Also took out their GPS nav functions. Had to have a tug guide them into port in the dark. (I guess the days of old school navigation is dead)

Porter points to a nearby small building and tells us to wait there for a rep from the cruise line for more info. Tells us if we leave, we won't get a voucher for another cruise. This is at noon. Building is small and there isn't enough seating. Most of us sat on our suitcases for the duration. No one from the cruise line ever showed up. 🤬

At 1700, someone from the Port Authority came and told us what was going on. Told us to call the toll free number to get a refund and gave us the voucher for another cruise. I get on the phone and book 3 days at the hotel we just checked out of figuring there would be a line at the counter. (And there was).

So went spent three days seeing the sights in N.O. and driving home with a detour to see the Naval Air Museum at Pensacola. The WW 2 Museum was the highlight for me. Best food we ate was in their restaurant.
Bourbon St. was let down. The trouble with Mardis Gras vids is they're at night so you can't see the warts, and there is no sense of smell. 🤢

The Voucher Cruise

It turns out the voucher was only valid for one year from date of issuance. Being we had both burned most of our vacation for the cruise that never was, we had to wait until the following year, which gave us a 6 week window to choose from.
There were no 7 day 6 night cruises like the first one in that time frame. We had to downgrade to a 5 day 4 night cruise to a different part of the Caribbean. This cruise departed from Tampa.

One of my dear friends visited us the weekend before we left to take the cruise. He was getting over whatever variant of the flu was going around that year and we all thought that being he was 90% over it, he was not contagious.

We depart for Tampa. My route for going to Florida avoids Atlanta. If there is even one wreck, you save the 30 minutes Google says the time penalty is for going "off Interstate." Believe me, it is time well spent. No crazy BMW drivers doing 90+, no traffic, just serene countryside until you emerge at Macon and get back on I-75. It's the best 30 minutes you ever "wasted".

Board the ship the next morning. Wife is feeling a bit queasy. We stroll around the ship and see the sights from the bow as it leaves port.
By the next morning, she is sick. Cliff Notes version is she never leaves the cabin the rest of the cruise. 😭

So, after getting her OJ and whatever light fare she thinks she can manage each morning, I explore the ship. Go on a beer crawl. Quickly discover that out of the multiple bars on this ship, only one of them has craft beer. An English Themed Pub in the bow. I spend a good bit of time there while on the ship. There is no longer skeet shooting off the fantail like in old movies, and origami towel folding class was not my cup of tea. The pool was crowded with a cross section of the "over fed generation", and I wanted to keep my lunch down. It was bad enough seeing them with their clothes on and the "Buffet Busters" in the chow line taking the "all you can eat" thing as a challenge. 🤨

Ship only makes two stops on this cruise. A six hour stop in Key West, and a 2 day stop in Cozumel. Honestly, I wish it had been the other way around, but whatever. Earnest Hemmingway House was cool. Most of the stuff is tourist trap stuff. Would have liked to see more of the historic stuff, but no time. Didn't want to be that guy who was 5 minutes late getting back to the ship.

Wife starts feeling better on the leg back to Tampa and is mostly OK when we dock. She's forever held a grudge against Charlie for making her sick though. 😡

So, this was strike 2 for her on cruises.

Strike 3

Wife's dad and step mom got sucked into the time share racket decades ago and the only good part is that he got one in Vegas so it trades with all the other time share venues. They would book a long weekend in Gatlinburg every year and we would meet them there. This was October 2019.

They had a dispute with the time share company and their account was flagged. Upon check-in the rep calls a meeting to smooth things over. Gave them a free cruise to make things right. Being we were there also, he gave us one too, even though we had nothing to do with any of it.

The date she picked was right when Covid was ramping up and all the cruise lines cancelled all cruises.

I haven't heard any more about cruises since, and I don't bring the subject up. :censored:

Not only would I not take a cruise for free.... you couldn't PAY me to go on a cruise ship. 1000% serious. Even the ads on TV that make it "look great" look like a NIGHTMARE to me. I'd rather stick needles in my eye than go on a cruise ship.
 
It seems I never got around to posting our cruise ship "experience"... :rolleyes:

The First Cruise: (The cruise that never was)

This was 10+years ago. The wife had been wanting to go on a cruise. Saw all the ads and how "romantic" it is etc. :rolleyes:
I finally give in to make the static go away. OK, you plan it, you book it. Tell me when it is so I can put in for vacation well in advance.

She books a 7 Day 6 Night on Royal Caribbean leaving from New Orleans. Google says 8.5 hr. drive if you don't eat and you don't pee. If you are an experienced traveler with females, you know they don't listen when you tell them to skip the coffee so we don't have to stop two times in the first hour. Of course, "I have to have my coffee." So in reality, the trip with stops for gas, food, and bathroom breaks is more like 12 hours because there is always a wreck inside the perimeter of Atlanta that adds that stuck in gridlock traffic ambiance to the day.

We finally get there and had selected a hotel right across the street from the Port Authority. Made arrangements to leave the car in their parking garage for the cruise.
The ship was scheduled to dock the previous evening and be ready to board at 0800. That was the time we chose to 🤞beat the rush.
While we are eating breakfast, she gets an automated text from the cruise line saying delay boarding until noon.

At noon, we are dockside with the Porter who has a clipboard full of pages. He takes our tickets and flips pages until he finds what he's looking for. "Yep, your cabin if affected, you're not going." 🤯
It seems a water pipe ruptured and flooded the electrical panel for the port side forward portion of the ship right below the bridge. None of the cabins were flooded, but no lights and no a/c. Also took out their GPS nav functions. Had to have a tug guide them into port in the dark. (I guess the days of old school navigation is dead)

Porter points to a nearby small building and tells us to wait there for a rep from the cruise line for more info. Tells us if we leave, we won't get a voucher for another cruise. This is at noon. Building is small and there isn't enough seating. Most of us sat on our suitcases for the duration. No one from the cruise line ever showed up. 🤬

At 1700, someone from the Port Authority came and told us what was going on. Told us to call the toll free number to get a refund and gave us the voucher for another cruise. I get on the phone and book 3 days at the hotel we just checked out of figuring there would be a line at the counter. (And there was).

So went spent three days seeing the sights in N.O. and driving home with a detour to see the Naval Air Museum at Pensacola. The WW 2 Museum was the highlight for me. Best food we ate was in their restaurant.
Bourbon St. was let down. The trouble with Mardis Gras vids is they're at night so you can't see the warts, and there is no sense of smell. 🤢

The Voucher Cruise

It turns out the voucher was only valid for one year from date of issuance. Being we had both burned most of our vacation for the cruise that never was, we had to wait until the following year, which gave us a 6 week window to choose from.
There were no 7 day 6 night cruises like the first one in that time frame. We had to downgrade to a 5 day 4 night cruise to a different part of the Caribbean. This cruise departed from Tampa.

One of my dear friends visited us the weekend before we left to take the cruise. He was getting over whatever variant of the flu was going around that year and we all thought that being he was 90% over it, he was not contagious.

We depart for Tampa. My route for going to Florida avoids Atlanta. If there is even one wreck, you save the 30 minutes Google says the time penalty is for going "off Interstate." Believe me, it is time well spent. No crazy BMW drivers doing 90+, no traffic, just serene countryside until you emerge at Macon and get back on I-75. It's the best 30 minutes you ever "wasted".

Board the ship the next morning. Wife is feeling a bit queasy. We stroll around the ship and see the sights from the bow as it leaves port.
By the next morning, she is sick. Cliff Notes version is she never leaves the cabin the rest of the cruise. 😭

So, after getting her OJ and whatever light fare she thinks she can manage each morning, I explore the ship. Go on a beer crawl. Quickly discover that out of the multiple bars on this ship, only one of them has craft beer. An English Themed Pub in the bow. I spend a good bit of time there while on the ship. There is no longer skeet shooting off the fantail like in old movies, and origami towel folding class was not my cup of tea. The pool was crowded with a cross section of the "over fed generation", and I wanted to keep my lunch down. It was bad enough seeing them with their clothes on and the "Buffet Busters" in the chow line taking the "all you can eat" thing as a challenge. 🤨

Ship only makes two stops on this cruise. A six hour stop in Key West, and a 2 day stop in Cozumel. Honestly, I wish it had been the other way around, but whatever. Earnest Hemmingway House was cool. Most of the stuff is tourist trap stuff. Would have liked to see more of the historic stuff, but no time. Didn't want to be that guy who was 5 minutes late getting back to the ship.

Wife starts feeling better on the leg back to Tampa and is mostly OK when we dock. She's forever held a grudge against Charlie for making her sick though. 😡

So, this was strike 2 for her on cruises.

Strike 3

Wife's dad and step mom got sucked into the time share racket decades ago and the only good part is that he got one in Vegas so it trades with all the other time share venues. They would book a long weekend in Gatlinburg every year and we would meet them there. This was October 2019.

They had a dispute with the time share company and their account was flagged. Upon check-in the rep calls a meeting to smooth things over. Gave them a free cruise to make things right. Being we were there also, he gave us one too, even though we had nothing to do with any of it.

The date she picked was right when Covid was ramping up and all the cruise lines cancelled all cruises.

I haven't heard any more about cruises since, and I don't bring the subject up. :censored:

Dude, that's crazy AND hilarious.
 
Never had a bad cruise or even bad cruise experience. That’s terrible you guys had so many issues.
It's not that my experience was "bad". It's just a bit expensive for what you get and the pricing structure of everything on board is hidden. They make it all too easy to charge it to your cabin, so you yield to temptation and don't know what it costs until you get the bill on the last day.
The food included in your food and beverage package is OK, but not over the top like peeps used to crow about 20-30 years ago. You have to visit one of the premium restaurants on board for that, and that is extra. So, you are paying for restaurant class meal and not eating the meal you already paid for in your package. Win/win for the cruise line.

The beverage packages are designed to be either not enough, or too much, making peeps lean towards the bigger package knowing that even if you grew gills for the cruise, you can't drink that much. Win/win for the cruise line.

And of course you can't bring your own booze, they'll confiscate it if they find it in your luggage. You have to get real creative to smuggle any on board and they know all the tricks.

Now if the cruise ship experience was like it was decades ago where your ticket price covered everything and you were not nickeled and dimed for each amenity, it would be different. Peeps had to dress for dinner in the dining room, waiters with trays of champagne etc. But it's not. Today it is basically the People of Wal-Mart afloat. :rolleyes:
 
Dude, that's crazy AND hilarious.
One of my curses is being observant. I have learned to keep most of what I observe to myself as peeps get upset and say your "spying" on them just for noticing something they said or did and remembering it later. :rolleyes:

One thing I noticed immediately on the ship was that the crew all had name tags and underneath their name was the country they were from. Even for those that didn't deal directly with the passengers and didn't have tags, it was easy to notice that all the deck hands were Filipinos, all the cooking staff was Asian, the servers in the restaurant were Eastern European, mostly Ukrainian. The staff that cleaned the cabins were all Latinos. The bridge crew and bartenders all seemed to be Western Europeans. I did not see a single American in the crew.

When I was in grade school and we studied geography, I remember being taught that it was England, Britain was England and Wales, Great Britain was England Wales, and Scotland. I do not recall being taught the phrase United Kingdom or UK.
So, in the British Pub aboard ship were three bartenders. One was from England, one was from Scotland, and one was from Croatia. The first two had UK on their name tags, as did everyone else from that country except one lady. And of course, I noticed her name tag.

She was the greeter for the restaurant making sure everyone took a squirt of hand sanitizer on the way in. She was a black lady, and it was quite different for your brain to process what you saw vs. what you heard.
I immediately noticed her name tag said "England". Of course, I had to know why she was the only Brit on the boat whose name tag had England on it instead of UK. She was delightful to talk to, and I could have listened to her all day, but she had a job to do, so the exchange was brief.
So, I tell her that I'm one of those annoying types that notices these things and I had to know "why".
She giggles a little and out comes this cockney accent... "Oh, that's me mum for you. She had a fit when I came home the first time with me name tag saying UK on it. She said, "It's bloody England damnit! You tell them to change it!". :ROFLMAO:

The world would be a better place if the Ebonics crowd would only act and speak like she did.
 
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