Article Link! The Great American EV Fire Sale Is About to Begin

Racer88 said:
I'm sure the Bahamas is liking the additional revenue!

California: Idiots electing idiots.
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If it were up to me, I would succeed Ca from the US and have them take Hawaii with. Neither state recognizes the constitution as a whole or SCOTUS rulings so let them go.
 
For @Bongo Lewi eyes only... 😋

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EVs aside, new homes are going to be equipped with batteries. A lot of people are already doing this. Some are installing them just as a short term solution for brief power outages. No solar panels. They keep them charged off the grid.

Add an EV to the mix and you can run everything in the house for a week or more if the grid power is interrupted. No solar, no generators. The local Generac dealer told me that home batteries are starting to chip away at the traditional whole house generator business so he's getting into offering them as well.
 
Bongo Lewi said:
EVs aside, new homes are going to be equipped with batteries. A lot of people are already doing this. Some are installing them just as a short term solution for brief power outages. No solar panels. They keep them charged off the grid.

Add an EV to the mix and you can run everything in the house for a week or more if the grid power is interrupted. No solar, no generators. The local Generac dealer told me that home batteries are starting to chip away at the traditional whole house generator business so he's getting into offering them as well.
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No way I'd put one in my house. Fire hazard.
 
I'll take the risk. Beats sitting in the dark :)

I already have big batteries (2). The second one is recent. I need to add more panels if I am going to run the whole house independent of the grid or my backup generator, which can run the whole house.

The generator is fueled by a 500 gallon propane tank buried in the yard. It burns about a gallon and a half every hour under load. I can switch between battery power to generator power easily. Or use the generator to charge the batteries. The system in its entirety is designed to mitigate a single point of failure. Backups for the backups. An EV would provide yet another option to power the home: Solar/batteries, generator, or EV power.
 
Racer88 said:
No way I'd put one in my house. Fire hazard.
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I know folks who have the same concern about putting a wood stove in their house, so they put in a wood boiler system in a shed separate from the house. Not quite the same, but they get a lot of the wood stove benefits without as much of the risk.

I know nothing about home batteries, but I assume one could take a similar approach if one had the space for a shed? Not disagreeing with you Racer, just letting my brain wander lol
 
NavyVette said:
AND, BONUS, you will be warm while the house is on fire!

Well, as long as you cqan hold out.

Bring marshmellows.
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Everybody's home is already full of lithium batteries.

Let's count the dead. One out of 600 million houses in the civilized world have burned down from failed batteries.

A home in my old neighborhood in MDS burned to the ground when an electric can opener in their kitchen failed. Nobody was home.

A guy that worked for my employer in NYC years ago lost his home on Long Island to a fire. He broke up with his girlfriend and she torched his house while he was out on a date with somebody else. She was a secretary for our company. His cat didnt make it.

I'm more worried about the meteor that wipes out life as we know it.
 
Bongo Lewi said:
Everybody's home is already full of lithium batteries.

Let's count the dead. One out of 600 million houses in the civilized world have burned down from failed batteries.

A home in my old neighborhood in MDS burned to the ground when an electric can opener in their kitchen failed. Nobody was home.

A guy that worked for my employer in NYC years ago lost his home on Long Island to a fire. He broke up with his girlfriend and she torched his house while he was out on a date with somebody else. She was a secretary for our company. His cat didnt make it.

I'm more worried about the meteor that wipes out life as we know it.
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I honestly don't worry abut much. I'm close enough to the Yellowstone Caldera that if the volcano blows I will probably never know while the rest of you are struggling for survival.
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NavyVette said:
I honestly don't worry abut much. I'm close enough to the Yellowstone Caldera that if the volcano blows I will probably never know while the rest of you are struggling for survival.
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Yes. Pray you are standing on top of it when it blows. Everyone else who survives the initial eruption will starve to death. It would trigger a new ice age. Mass extinction.
 
terraform said:
I know folks who have the same concern about putting a wood stove in their house, so they put in a wood boiler system in a shed separate from the house. Not quite the same, but they get a lot of the wood stove benefits without as much of the risk.

I know nothing about home batteries, but I assume one could take a similar approach if one had the space for a shed? Not disagreeing with you Racer, just letting my brain wander lol
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Not a bad idea, actually. Of course those living in the typical gated communities with zero lot lines wouldn't have the space to do that. I'm on an acre with no HOA, so I could do that.
 
terraform said:
I know folks who have the same concern about putting a wood stove in their house, so they put in a wood boiler system in a shed separate from the house.
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I knew someone that did that. Shed with the boiler was about 50 yds. from the house.

There is a prepper engineer guy on youtube that did the same with his solar power shed. All the batteries and inverters and other electronics are located in a separate shed. It also has a carport for charging his EV.
 
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Racer88 said:
Not a bad idea, actually. Of course those living in the typical gated communities with zero lot lines wouldn't have the space to do that. I'm on an acre with no HOA, so I could do that.
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While you are at it, put an outhouse in. Nothing beats having to go outside to take a dump or stoke the furnace. If it was 1880. :)
 
Racer88 said:
www.wsoctv.com

Charlotte’s first electric fire truck is out of commission after a month

A spokesperson for Charlotte Fire confirmed to Channel 9 that the city’s electric fire engine is currently out of service while warrant-related items are being addressed.
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$1.9 million??
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It must have been a while since you bought your last fire truck. They are all crazy expensive. :)

Fire trucks typically cost between $300,000 and over $1.5 million, depending on factors like the type of truck and additional equipment.

Last summer there was a fund raiser for a new fire truck at the volunteer FD near my fishing/hunting shack. The cost for the truck they needed was 800k.

Speaking of fire truck maintenance... when Pacific Palisades was burning to the ground something like 100 LA and LA County fire trucks and ambulances were inoperable, awaiting maintenance. None of them were EVs.
 
Bongo Lewi said:
It must have been a while since you bought your last fire truck. They are all crazy expensive. :)

Fire trucks typically cost between $300,000 and over $1.5 million, depending on factors like the type of truck and additional equipment.

Last summer there was a fund raiser for a new fire truck at the volunteer FD near my fishing/hunting shack. The cost for the truck they needed was 800k.

Speaking of fire truck maintenance... when Pacific Palisades was burning to the ground something like 100 LA and LA County fire trucks and ambulances were inoperable, awaiting maintenance. None of them were EVs.
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Yeah, it's been a while since I bought my last fire truck! LOL!

I knew they were big bucks... like any specialty vehicle. But I also knew that just shy of $2MM is UP THERE.

And back in the shop after only a month.... no bueno. I'm betting the CA fire trucks were older / neglected machines.
 
Racer88 said:
Yeah, it's been a while since I bought my last fire truck! LOL!

I knew they were big bucks... like any specialty vehicle. But I also knew that just shy of $2MM is UP THERE.

And back in the shop after only a month.... no bueno. I'm betting the CA fire trucks were older / neglected machines.
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As I understand it, they break down a lot. Not just the engines but also the pumps, hydraulics, and other whatnot. Very complicated machines these days. The new Chief in LA said it take two years to get a new truck from the time they order it.

When I was a kid the local FD had two stations. Each station had an 'engineer' who did the maintenance on the fire trucks. Basically a diesel mechanic. Now, these trucks are so sophisticated the manufacturer does most of the maintenance. It requires trained, highly skilled technicians to keep them running.

In LA, the maintenance budgets got slashed so maintenance and repairs just didn't get done. Instead of fixing tranny's they hired trannys.

Electric firetrucks make a lot of sense. Range isnt an issue. Electric pumps are more efficient and less complicated. Far less maintenance on the vehicle too. Same goes for local delivery vehicles. Way cheaper to operate and maintain.
 

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