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While everyone is enjoying a day off from work spending it with family and friends grilling out, take a moment to remember those that served and died giving us the freedom we have, imperiled as it may be at the moment.

In my case, most of my family members that served were Navy. (Dad was Army). One died in WW2.

His name was Charles DeFreytas. My mothers cousin. He was an Electricians Mate Third Class on the submarine USS Capelin.

In WW2, there were two bases that subs operated out of. One was Pearl Harbor, and the Western Command operated out of Australia. Capelin's first war patrol lasted only 2 weeks, and she returned to Darwin for repairs. 2 days later, she set sail on her second war patrol, and except for a brief sonar contact with the submarine USS Bonefish, was never heard from again. Best guess is she struck a Japanese mine in the Celebes Sea. She was lost with all hands on or about 3 December 1943.

In the Silent Service, submarines that failed to return from patrol were declared "Overdue and presumed lost". They are said to be on Eternal Patrol.

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Charles Francis DeFreytas
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Rank/Rate Electrician's Mate, Third Class

Service Number 224 32 76

Birth Date August 25, 1923

From Jamaica, New York

Decorations Purple Heart

Submarine USS Capelin (SS-289)

Loss Date December 2, 1943

Location Off Celebes possibly off Kaoe Bay Circumstances Lost at sea, cause unknown

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Capelin (SS-289)
Compiled by Paul W. Wittmer and Charles R. Hinman, originally from:
U.S. Submarine Losses World War II, NAVPERS 15,784, 1949 ISSUE
Returning from her first war patrol after only 17 days out, CAPELIN (Cdr. E. E. Marshall) came into Darwin on 16 November 1943 with a defective conning tower hatch mechanism, excessively noisy bow planes, and a defective radar tube. These flaws were corrected to the satisfaction of the Commanding Officer, and the ship then departed for her second patrol on 17 November. Her area was in the Molucca and Celebes Seas, and she was to pay particular attention to Kaoe Bay, Moratai Strait, Davao Gulf and trade routes in the vicinity of Siaoe, Sangi, Talaud and Sarangani Islands. She was to leave her area at dark 6 December.
Nothing was positively heard from CAPELIN after her departure. However BONEFISH reported having seen a U. S. submarine at 1° 14'N, 123° 50'E on 2 December 1943. [Editor's note: According to Clay Blair in Silent Victory, the vessel was positively identified as Capelin. Bonefish sent her a message by sonar and received an acknowledgement.] This position is in the area assigned to CAPELIN at this time. An attempt to reach CAPELIN by radio, on 9 December 1943, elicited no response.

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Google Earth image of the general area in which USS Capelin is assumed to have been lost
On 23 November an American submarine was attacked off Kaoe Bay, Halmahera, 1° 34'N, 123° 07'E. However the Japanese state that this attack was broken off, and the evidence of contact was rather thin. The only positive statement which can be made is that CAPELIN was lost in the Celebes Sea, or in Molucca Passage or the Molucca Sea, in December 1943. Enemy minefields are now known to have been placed in various positions along the north coast of Celebes in CAPELIN's area, and she may have been lost because of a mine explosion. In her 17 day first patrol, CAPELIN sank two Japanese medium freighters for 7,400 tons of merchant shipping. This first patrol was conducted among the islands immediately west of New Guinea.
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I think it's important to make the distinction between Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

Memorial Day is to honor those who gave their lives in defense of Freedom. It's not for living veterans. And, I'm saying this as an obviously living veteran.

I do NOT want to be thanked (as well-intended as it is) for my service on Memorial Day. I feel it diminishes the meaning of Memorial Day. Our thanks on this day should be 100% dedicated to the memory (why it's called MEMORIAL Day) of those who died in service of our Country.

End of rant. :)
 
I understand and am aware of the difference, truly. But the way I look at it, is as President Ronald Reagan said of those enlisted that (paraphrased) gave Uncle Sam a blank check with their lives. So yes Memorial Day is just that, for those who didn't make it home. It all goes back to those heady, brave days leading up the year 1776 and beyond.

And yet, those who did make it back, could have been in the other category. And I still thank you all, as a grateful civilian. No offense. May the LORD comfort the families of those who didn't make it back.
 
I'm giving this thread a bump.
Any of you that had a family member or friend that died serving our country, feel free to make a remembrance post if you wish.
 
More and more it bugs the shit out of me when people use Memorial Day to thank LIVING veterans.

We have a day for that. Veterans Day.

Memorial Day is to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for Freedom. This day is for them and them ONLY.

People should know the difference by now. But they don't.
 
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My favorite story my grandad told me was the day he saw Patton at a big ballroom in France giving a speech. He described him the way he was in the movies and pictures, polished shining helmet, perfect appearance with his pistols on.
This was in 1945 right after VE Day.
My grandad lived to be 95.
 
That one is hard to watch 🥺🤧
Tears me up everytime! Even just hearing Rodney Foster singing "Angel Flight" gets me! I send that video to everyone in my family every Memorial Day to make sure they remember what this day is all about. None of them ever served, except for my Korean War Navy veteran F-in-L (now deceased), but they always remember me on Veterans Day and are very respectful of those who did serve! 🇺🇸
 
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Memorial Day is here once again.
Let us all remember what it has taken so that we may enjoy the freedom we have.
 
Post #1 has been updated with pics and additional biographical and archival information on the fate of the USS Capelin.
 
Memorial Day is here once again.
Let us all remember what it has taken so that we may enjoy the freedom we have.

As a veteran, it drives me NUTS that MOST people (including the media) cannot get right what Memorial Day commemorates. It's NOT about current active duty or veterans who are alive. It's FUCKING DEFINITELY NOT about "first responders." Some are trying to include them or equate them.

It's about ONE THING... honoring those who made the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE in MILITARY service to the United States of America. Including anyone else is a dishonor to those who gave their lives in military service.

PS.... Similarly, it is poor form to say, "HAPPY Memorial Day."
 
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