Any Bump-Stock Users?

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I looking for input from those that have them. Pros, cons, tips, etc.

Trying to decide on whether to go with an old Bumpfire Systems(Sued out of existence by Slide Fire Solutions) stock or a super-safety on an AR build. It appears that when the stock is set for bump-firing, nothing actually keeps it from falling off the buffer tube. This is not a problem while shooting, but may be if one has to maneuver while it is not locked in place.

Leaning towards a super safety which would be much less conspicuous. too.

Then comes the questions about value of the Bumpfire Systems stock and the best way to sell it.
 
GuitarmanNick said:
I looking for input from those that have them. Pros, cons, tips, etc.

Trying to decide on whether to go with an old Bumpfire Systems(Sued out of existence by Slide Fire Solutions) stock or a super-safety on an AR build. It appears that when the stock is set for bump-firing, nothing actually keeps it from falling off the buffer tube. This is not a problem while shooting, but may be if one has to maneuver while it is not locked in place.

Leaning towards a super safety which would be much less conspicuous. too.

Then comes the questions about value of the Bumpfire Systems stock and the best way to sell it.
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I don’t know anyone who takes bump stocks seriously. The fact that you can get much the same results with your thumb in a belt loop is the reason I’d pass on it. I am not familiar with super safetys but it sounds like a better option. Binary triggers is another way to go, and probably easier to control. If my memory is correct the price for a Surefire stock was around $150 before the Vegas shooting and after that they were going upwards to $300 on the street. Knowing how the political pendulum swings it wasn’t worth it for me. I shifted my attention towards Glock clones and since then rifle building consisted of shopping around for a complete upper and a lower assembly and putting the two together. It works for me.
 
I didn't know they were still available. :unsure:

We had one for about 6 months. I bought it lightly used for like $30-$40. I can't remember the brand. It was about 1/2 retail or I wouldn't have bought it. :cool:

The kids and I had it out on the range one day (my club allows full-auto fire on the plinking range) and we burned through about 4-5 30rd mags each and that was enough to figure out the method and to get our ya-yas out. After that, I determined it was not anything we needed to keep and doubled my money selling it right after the LVNV shooting. Cunt Scott outlawed them right after the Parkland shooting even though the shooter did not use one.

Other than a waste of ammo and rounds hitting every which way during hip firing, I also didn't/don't like the way you have to let the front half of the gun "float" in relation to the back half. As you hold the pistol grip you keep your trigger finger stationary as the front half of the gun recoils fore and aft moving the trigger into your finger. Or something like that... ;)

I would just get a binary or FRT which in our case here in FL, are "legal" again (as are bumpys) due to a recent Superior? Court decision that overturned that part of the MSD law mentioned previously on constitutional grounds.
 
FRT, super safety or binary trigger is a better choice. Bump stocks are cheap plastic crap.

All of them are fun and give you a boner - for about two mags. Unless you like burning thru a $100 of ammo in two minutes. Most ranges prohibit them, so I’d consider all that before letting the moths fly out of your wallet.

I can dump a mag almost as fast as any of the aforementioned accessories with my finger. And be more likely to accomplish effective shot placement and hit what I’m aiming at.

That said, I carried an MP5a3, which is full auto. In a hostile fire situation a couple of times. Being able to fill the air with lead has certain advantages. But if you are not expecting to lay down fire or defend yourself alone against platoon of bad guys, it’s a waste of money. Cool… yes. waste of money… also yes. I assure you that you will get bored with it really fast.

My usual advice when this comes up is go rent a machine gun and get your nut off with a couple thousand rounds. It’ll cure ya.
 
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I installed binary trigger on my AK. It's not just drop-in-and-rock. You have to learn to get the timing right or it's really easy to outrun the trigger. Squeeze too fast and you get bang, bang, click... Then you have to manually rack the bolt to get back to shooting. I found it to be more of a PITA than it was worth. And I CERTAINLY wouldn't trust it for defensive use. I think a FRT is the way to go if you want that FA experience without all the hassle and money it takes to own the real thing. And, like @Bongo Lewi said, super fast mag dumps get pretty expensive, especially when the only purpose is for shits and giggles.
 
I have a Franklin Armory AR with a short, unrifled barrel and their binary trigger. 5.56/223.

Yes, I said unrifled. That makes it not a rifle. Or an SBR. It has a stock.

After 20 yards the rounds start tumbling for lack of spin and make keyhole shaped openings in whatever you point it at. This gun at 25-50 yards turns a watermelon back into water. Instead of making holes it literally shreds everything in its path. It’s utterly useless beyond 75 yards. It can do a 30 round mag dump in under ten seconds.

When I bought it my FFL had to call the local Atey Eff because they didnt know how to classify it on the 4473. Was it an SBR? Took half a day but the answer was no. The Bureau agent was genuinely helpful and called Frankin. It was all very amusing.
 
Bobster said:
I would just get a binary or FRT which in our case here in FL, are "legal" again (as are bumpys) due to a recent Superior? Court decision that overturned that part of the MSD law mentioned previously on constitutional grounds.
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FrankenGlock said:
Nope, not legal in Florida thanks to Rick Scott and Pam Bondi.
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I do a few searches and they say one thing then a couple days later I do a few more searches and they say differently... :rolleyes: ;)

Technically, Fed law supersedes FL law but there may be LEOs that are unaware of this. So if you are in FL, bumpys/FRTs are probably still "prohibited" but you would never know at my club's plinking range on a Saturday or Sunday... :cool:

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Thanks for the input, gents.

My builds are put together with reliability and function being the primary goals. Accuracy within reason is also important. A bump-stock does not seem compatible with them.

The super-safeties give me the three position switch I grew accustomed to many years ago on the M-16.
 
Just for shits and giggles I put the Atrius in an older M&P. Someone gifted it to me - used. It worked fine. I don't shoot it much. It ended up being a so-called truck gun. I wasnt worried about it getting beat up. Worked reliably for the brief time I spent making sure it was dialed in.

It sat in the tray under the back seat of my Tundra TRD for a long time. I sold the truck and stowed the gun. Havent shot it in ages. Maybe I’ll pull it out and put a few rounds thru it.

I read a few comments a while back about the Atrius and others like it cracking from heavy use. Metal fatigue. But I never experienced any failure. My guess is I put a couple thousand rounds thru it. Or somewhere thereabout.
 
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Bobster said:
I do a few searches and they say one thing then a couple days later I do a few more searches and they say differently... :rolleyes: ;)

Technically, Fed law supersedes FL law but there may be LEOs that are unaware of this. So if you are in FL, bumpys/FRTs are probably still "prohibited" but you would never know at my club's plinking range on a Saturday or Sunday... :cool:

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I wish federal law trumped state laws on guns. If that were the case, all the gun regulations would not be a thing. In my opinion, no how no way should a state have any input on anything that is protected by the constitution. What's next, NY state banning the term MAGA? If you can limit the 2A, you can limit the 1A and all other amendments.
 
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