Video Climate change is a money-grabbing hoax, and the Deputy Sec of Energy proves it.


Not many. But there’s dozen others that suggest the opposite. Which are true?

Like I said, people believe what they want to believe. For every opinion, there’s a scientist who agrees. And activists.

I prefer to look at the actual data and leave opinions out of it. But you do have to consider most likely scenarios that the data point to.

The pyramids are ancient power generators for alien spaceships. Because nobody can prove they aren’t. People believe in angels. Half the world believes the other half are infidels.
 
Not many. But there’s dozen others that suggest the opposite. Which are true?

Like I said, people believe what they want to believe. For every opinion, there’s a scientist who agrees. And activists.

I prefer to look at the actual data and leave opinions out of it. But you do have to consider most likely scenarios that the data point to.

The pyramids are ancient power generators for alien spaceships. Because nobody can prove they aren’t. People believe in angels. Half the world believes the other half are infidels.

Unfortunately, pretty much ALL scientists are bought and paid for now. There is virtually no unbiased Science nowadays. Conflicts of interest are the norm.

So, I go on my own scientific knowledge and observations.... what makes sense? To me, based on the laws of Thermodynamics, humans are but a speck in the total energy of the planet. For climate change to be anthropogenic (caused by humans) makes absolutely ZERO scientific sense. The climate is largely driven by the Sun, which by golly... changes its output constantly. Human input / output is the proverbial drop in the ocean of energy.

Then when I consider that our "leaders'" proposition that they can "prevent climate change" by taking money and control from citizens... Well... There ya go. That's not Science. It's a money and power grab under the GUISE of science, which works quite well on the general population who know little of actual science and defer to the "experts."

Also consider that literally NONE of the "experts'" predictions have come true. They are batting ZERO on their dire warnings of doom if we don't change our ways (which means giving them money and power).
 
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Unfortunately, pretty much ALL scientists are bought and paid for now. There is virtually no unbiased Science nowadays. Conflicts of interest are the norm.

So, I go on my own scientific knowledge and observations.... what makes sense? To me, based on the laws of Thermodynamics, humans are but a speck in the total energy of the planet. For climate change to be anthropogenic (caused by humans) makes absolutely ZERO scientific sense. The climate is largely driven by the Sun, which by golly... changes its output constantly. Human input / output is the proverbial drop in the ocean of energy.

Then when I consider that our "leaders'" proposition that they can "prevent climate change" by taking money and control from citizens... Well... There ya go. That's not Science. It's a money and power grab under the GUISE of science, which works quite well on the general population who know little of actual science and defer to the "experts."

Also consider that literally NONE of the "experts'" predictions have come true. They are batting ZERO on their dire warnings of doom if we don't change our ways (which means giving them money and power).
Everybody is bought and paid for in some ways. Figuratively or literally. Science is also not immune from giant egos. There are plenty of disagreeing liberals and conservatives in that world too.

Stating the obvious... climate is astronomically complex. Even with the models that run on supercomputers they can only speculate on what's going to happen a month, a year or a decade from now. Very much like the stock market. Too many variables.

You also find a colossal number of people whose opinion on the climate is based entirely on their politics. Which is the dumbest, least objective point of view anyone can hold. This exists on all sides. In fact, it's rampant.

So little is understood about how everything around us works. Even though more is understood today than it ever was in the history of mankind, the experts still get it wrong. On a greater scale, why did the water and atmosphere of Mars disappear? Matter cannot be destroyed, so where did it all go millions of years ago? Nobody is sure. Yet.

Even the best, science based predictions are based only on what we know. What has already happened. Patterns. When something new happens, it often can't be explained.

I'm inclined to agree that warming and sea level rise, which are interrelated and absolutely true, is not being driven by human actions. At least not to the degree that some alarmists say it is. Temperature rise and sea level rise is a simple fact. It can't be faked. Why it's happening is another thing all together.

It's flat out stupid to deny that because some natural cycle has begun that may go on for hundreds of years, maybe thousands, it is not happening because you barely notice the change in your lifetime. Or you are unaffected by it. Like you live in Kansas and deny beaches are flooding even though you have never lived anywhere that's an arms length above sea level. I shake my head at how ridiculous some people can be - and their opinion is usually politically motivated.

I occasionally encounter hippie-tards who actually believe we should stop burning coal to produce electricity tomorrow. They don't realize that there's nothing in place to replace it. The entire country (or world) would come to a screeching halt and millions of people would die within a month of throwing that switch. They are monolithic thinkers. On the other side of the coin, there are conservi-tards who have no grasp of how industry, if left unchecked, can literally destroy the delicate ecosystem that we live in. The Earth is resilient and will survive us. But there are a few things to remember. When the soil and water is poisoned, Earth will still be here but we will be dead. When the bees die, we are next. When the oceans are dead, so are we. So we need to be sensible in what we dump onto this organic spaceship we live on and not negligently poison it.
 
You also find a colossal number of people whose opinion on the climate is based entirely on their politics. Which is the dumbest, least objective point of view anyone can hold. This exists on all sides. In fact, it's rampant.
To wit.... Covid. And not a single person took me up on reading any actual scientific literature that contradicted the media and political narrative. Not one!

I shake my head at how ridiculous some people can be - and their opinion is usually politically motivated.
It's almost entirely that. The problem is that if I present an opposing view based on ACTUAL Science, the other side assumes that my position is politically motivated. And hilariously, they believed their side was based in "science" because the media and politicians told them it was. I have Science degrees.... and I can read and understand scientific studies and publications.

But I have learned that I cannot compete with a talking head on TV. Even the people who know me well... and KNOW that I know what I'm talking about... will reflexively dismiss anything I have to say in deference to what's on TV. The same thing happens with anything regarding firearms. They KNOW that I am an expert. Yet, that goes immediately out the window as soon as they hear something else on TV or on the interwebz.

Again... I said, "I can send you the published literature." NOPE! Not one accepted the challenge. Morons.

. On the other side of the coin, there are conservi-tards who have no grasp of how industry, if left unchecked, can literally destroy the delicate ecosystem that we live in. The Earth is resilient and will survive us. But there are a few things to remember. When the soil and water is poisoned, Earth will still be here but we will be dead. When the bees die, we are next. When the oceans are dead, so are we. So we need to be sensible in what we dump onto this organic spaceship we live on and not negligently poison it.

Then we get to a Straw Man argument that if you're opposed to the "green movement," it means you want to poison the earth. Really it's "argumentum ad absurdum." Hardly. I don't throw my used oil down the drain, eh? I don't throw garbage out the car window onto the streets.

We ALL agree that industry shouldn't dump toxins into the rivers... like the rest of the world STILL does TODAY (see China, Indonesia, Russia, India, etc).

But making me use a crappy paper straw in the USA isn't saving a single turtle. We don't throw our shit into the ocean. Go talk to the Indonesians and Chinese!
 
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To wit.... Covid. And not a single person took me up on reading any actual scientific literature that contradicted the media and political narrative. Not one!


It's almost entirely that. The problem is that if I present an opposing view based on ACTUAL Science, the other side assumes that my position is politically motivated. And hilariously, they believed their side was based in "science" because the media and politicians told them it was. I have Science degrees.... and I can read and understand scientific studies and publications.

But I have learned that I cannot compete with a talking head on TV. Even the people who know me well... and KNOW that I know what I'm talking about... will reflexively dismiss anything I have to say in deference to what's on TV. The same thing happens with anything regarding firearms. They KNOW that I am an expert. Yet, that goes immediately out the window as soon as they hear something else on TV or on the interwebz.

Again... I said, "I can send you the published literature." NOPE! Not one accepted the challenge. Morons.



Then we get to a Straw Man argument that if you're opposed to the "green movement," it means you want to poison the earth. Really it's "argumentum ad absurdum." Hardly. I don't throw my used oil down the drain, eh? I don't throw garbage out the car window onto the streets.

We ALL agree that industry shouldn't dump toxins into the rivers... like the rest of the world STILL does TODAY (see China, Indonesia, Russia, India, etc).

But making me use a crappy paper straw in the USA isn't saving a single turtle. We don't throw our shit into the ocean. Go talk to the Indonesians and Chinese!
Well … not exactly. Garbage barges out of NYC used to dump waste out in the ocean every day.
To wit.... Covid. And not a single person took me up on reading any actual scientific literature that contradicted the media and political narrative. Not one!


It's almost entirely that. The problem is that if I present an opposing view based on ACTUAL Science, the other side assumes that my position is politically motivated. And hilariously, they believed their side was based in "science" because the media and politicians told them it was. I have Science degrees.... and I can read and understand scientific studies and publications.

But I have learned that I cannot compete with a talking head on TV. Even the people who know me well... and KNOW that I know what I'm talking about... will reflexively dismiss anything I have to say in deference to what's on TV. The same thing happens with anything regarding firearms. They KNOW that I am an expert. Yet, that goes immediately out the window as soon as they hear something else on TV or on the interwebz.

Again... I said, "I can send you the published literature." NOPE! Not one accepted the challenge. Morons.



Then we get to a Straw Man argument that if you're opposed to the "green movement," it means you want to poison the earth. Really it's "argumentum ad absurdum." Hardly. I don't throw my used oil down the drain, eh? I don't throw garbage out the car window onto the streets.

We ALL agree that industry shouldn't dump toxins into the rivers... like the rest of the world STILL does TODAY (see China, Indonesia, Russia, India, etc).

But making me use a crappy paper straw in the USA isn't saving a single turtle. We don't throw our shit into the ocean. Go talk to the Indonesians and Chinese!
The straw thing was ridiculous to be sure. But the original point was the #1 killer of endangered sea turtles is plastic. And balloons.

NYC dumped on average 12 million tons of trash and sewer sludge into the Atlantic every day from 1935 to 1992. It wasn’t until this drek started washing up on New England, NJ and long island beaches that the practice was halted. When I lived on the Jersey Shore I remember seeing medical waste on the beach. Syringes and bits of those red plastic biohazard bags.

Being opposed the so-called green politicians and their dogma is not the same as denying reality. I assume you aren’t suggesting they are. A dumbass is a dumbass no matter what party they choose to support.
 
Well … not exactly. Garbage barges out of NYC used to dump waste out in the ocean every day.
Here in Central FL, landfills, many of them capped, are THE highest points for miles. :( This is somewhat due to the throwaway society we are living in... 😠
 
The straw thing was ridiculous to be sure. But the original point was the #1 killer of endangered sea turtles is plastic. And balloons.
Not coming from the US... and not IN US waters. The vast majority (if not all) of the online videos of sea life with plastic in their mouths / wrapped around their necks / etc... are FAKE videos (and proven to be so). If it's a real problem, they should be able to use REAL videos.

I was an AVID scuba diver for many years. I saw a lot of turtles and other sea life. Never saw a single one with plastic. Not a single one. EVER. And I don't know any other divers who have seen it, either. Not here.

NYC dumped on average 12 million tons of trash and sewer sludge into the Atlantic every day from 1935 to 1992. It wasn’t until this drek started washing up on New England, NJ and long island beaches that the practice was halted. When I lived on the Jersey Shore I remember seeing medical waste on the beach. Syringes and bits of those red plastic biohazard bags.
Never seen any such thing here. NY? Well... color me not surprised. NY is a fucked up state in oh-so-many ways. So, hey NY... stop doing that shit, eh?

Here in Central FL, landfills, many of them capped, are THE highest points for miles. :( This is somewhat due to the throwaway society we are living in... 😠
Yeah... "Mount Trashmore." But we're not throwing it in the ocean or the rivers or the lakes.
 
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Sea turtles very commonly wash up dead on the outer banks. They nest in the NC beaches. Necropsy is performed on all of them and the majority have starved due to ingesting plastic. Clear plastic in the water looks like a jellyfish to a sea turtle. They swallow it and die.

I’m a patron of the local aquarium who assists state wildlife biologists and a few non profits who are about marine wildlife conservation. I get the reports on rescues and deaths of turtles every month. Turtles get special attention because they are endangered.

The second most common cause of death with sea turtles is boat strikes.
 
Let’s ask Grok. Or is Grok in on it.

Since 1990, global ice loss has been significant, primarily driven by climate change. Based on available data, Earth lost approximately **28 trillion tonnes of ice** between 1994 and 2017. This includes:

- **Arctic sea ice**: 7.6 trillion tonnes
- **Antarctic ice shelves**: 6.5 trillion tonnes
- **Mountain glaciers**: 6.1 trillion tonnes
- **Greenland ice sheet**: 3.8 trillion tonnes
- **Antarctic ice sheet**: 2.5 trillion tonnes
- **Southern Ocean sea ice**: 0.9 trillion tonnes[](https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/CryoSat/Our_world_is_losing_ice_at_record_rate)[](https://tc.copernicus.org/articles/15/233/2021/)

The rate of ice loss has accelerated by about 57% since the 1990s, increasing from 0.8 trillion tonnes per year in the 1990s to 1.2 trillion tonnes per year by 2017. Greenland’s ice loss specifically has risen dramatically, from 33 billion tonnes per year in the 1990s to 254 billion tonnes per year in the 2010s, contributing significantly to sea level rise. By 2023, Greenland alone had lost 6,214 ± 467 gigatonnes since 1972, with losses accelerating since the 1990s. Antarctica’s ice sheet lost 4,817 ± 534 gigatonnes between 1979 and 2023.[](https://climate.copernicus.eu/climate-indicators/ice-sheets)[](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/10/greenland-ice-sheet-melting-seven-times-faster-than-in-1990s)

These losses have contributed to a global sea level rise of about 34.6 ± 3.1 mm from 1994 to 2017, with grounded ice (from ice sheets and glaciers) being the primary driver. Note that floating sea ice and ice shelves do not directly contribute to sea level rise but exacerbate warming and habitat loss.[](https://tc.copernicus.org/articles/15/233/2021/)

Data prior to 1994 is less comprehensive, and exact figures for 1990–1994 are not as well-documented in the sources. However, the trend of accelerating ice loss began in the early 1990s, suggesting losses before 1994 were lower but still significant. For the most precise figures, especially for earlier years, further research into pre-1994 satellite data would be needed.
 
Grok also reports 6-8 inches of sea level rise in the past 100 years.
 
Let’s ask Grok. Or is Grok in on it.

Since 1990, global ice loss has been significant, primarily driven by climate change. Based on available data, Earth lost approximately **28 trillion tonnes of ice** between 1994 and 2017. This includes:

- **Arctic sea ice**: 7.6 trillion tonnes
- **Antarctic ice shelves**: 6.5 trillion tonnes
- **Mountain glaciers**: 6.1 trillion tonnes
- **Greenland ice sheet**: 3.8 trillion tonnes
- **Antarctic ice sheet**: 2.5 trillion tonnes
- **Southern Ocean sea ice**: 0.9 trillion tonnes[](https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/CryoSat/Our_world_is_losing_ice_at_record_rate)[](https://tc.copernicus.org/articles/15/233/2021/)

The rate of ice loss has accelerated by about 57% since the 1990s, increasing from 0.8 trillion tonnes per year in the 1990s to 1.2 trillion tonnes per year by 2017. Greenland’s ice loss specifically has risen dramatically, from 33 billion tonnes per year in the 1990s to 254 billion tonnes per year in the 2010s, contributing significantly to sea level rise. By 2023, Greenland alone had lost 6,214 ± 467 gigatonnes since 1972, with losses accelerating since the 1990s. Antarctica’s ice sheet lost 4,817 ± 534 gigatonnes between 1979 and 2023.[](https://climate.copernicus.eu/climate-indicators/ice-sheets)[](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/10/greenland-ice-sheet-melting-seven-times-faster-than-in-1990s)

These losses have contributed to a global sea level rise of about 34.6 ± 3.1 mm from 1994 to 2017, with grounded ice (from ice sheets and glaciers) being the primary driver. Note that floating sea ice and ice shelves do not directly contribute to sea level rise but exacerbate warming and habitat loss.[](https://tc.copernicus.org/articles/15/233/2021/)

Data prior to 1994 is less comprehensive, and exact figures for 1990–1994 are not as well-documented in the sources. However, the trend of accelerating ice loss began in the early 1990s, suggesting losses before 1994 were lower but still significant. For the most precise figures, especially for earlier years, further research into pre-1994 satellite data would be needed.
Let's assume that's all true. My answer: So what?

Just as there is no evidence we caused it, there is nothing we can do to stop it.
We can only ADAPT to it.

Any effort to tax us, fine us, restrict us, restrict, and regulate us in the name of so-called "climate change" (which they changed the name to for marketing reasons and to obfuscate their disingenuous claim to "solve" or prevent the problem) is plainly nothing more than a money and power grab. The anthropogenic LIE is blatantly self-evident because it is logically, scientifically, and patently BASELESS.
 
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Let's assume that's all true. My answer: So what?

Just as there is no evidence we caused it, there is nothing we can do to stop it.
We can only ADAPT to it.

Any effort to tax us, fine us, restrict us, restrict, and regulate us in the name of so-called "climate change" (which they changed the name to for marketing reasons and to obfuscate their disingenuous claim to "solve" or prevent the problem) is plainly nothing more than a money and power grab. The anthropogenic LIE is blatantly self-evident because it is logically, scientifically, and patently BASELESS.
Let's take a look at coastlines over the last 100 years. Pfft. Sea rise? nada. and the Climate Change puke domestic and world leader peeps can't buy beachfront property fast enough.

And now we have the "UN Court" (oh that's rich...) demanding that countries "act on climate change".

Flippin hoaxers. But they don't give a rats rump about the scourge of pedophilia. They can go pound sand in their nether regions.

All this fear-mongering is for control, and taxation justification. Pfft. and Pfft again.
 
Let's take a look at coastlines over the last 100 years. Pfft. Sea rise? nada.
Says everyone who doesn't live on a beach. :)

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Eight inches of sea level rise past 100 years. Most beach communities are a couple of feet above sea level. So instead of occasional floods during the typical nor'easter, it's becoming regular floods during king tides. Carolina Beach this week in photo. This is what a normal storm (not a hurricane) looks like when it happens during a king tide.

If the trend continues another ten years at the current rate, high tide will be a flood. Twice a day. In 20 years, they will have to trade in their cars for gondolas. Will it continue? Nobody knows.
 
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Says everyone who doesn't live on a beach. :)

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Eight inches of sea level rise past 100 years. Most beach communities are a couple of feet above sea level. So instead of occasional floods during the typical nor'easter, it's becoming regular floods during king tides. Carolina Beach this week in photo. This is what a normal storm (not a hurricane) looks like when it happens during a king tide.

If the trend continues another ten years at the current rate, high tide will be a flood. Twice a day. In 20 years, they will have to trade in their cars for gondolas. Will it continue? Nobody knows.
King tides are nothing new. At all.

Correlation does not equal causation. And multiple anecdotes do not make data.
 
Sitting at my kitchen table I have an excellent view of a craggy granite mountain range that has some horizontal bands of limestone at the top. There are seashell fossils in this limestone. They are 10,000 feet above current sea level. There is no amount of geoengineering that can reverse that kind of sea level change.

Humans are very creative and resourceful in adapting to every climate and landscape on this earth. Why not recognize the world is changing as the evidence is abundant and obvious. Unleash human resourcefulness and creativity to allow us to adapt to and thrive in the world as it changes rather than trying to hold the environment to some idealized standard. Seems like a fool's errand to try to hold the ocean back. People might have to move to higher ground despite having a hundred years or more of history on their beach property. That desert mountain outside my window was at the bottom of a sea at some point in the history of the earth. I would not rule out the possibility of it happening again.
 
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